Semantic Web Interest Group IRC Chat Logs for 2003-03-05

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02:55:43 <soccos|away> soccos|away is now known as soccos

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10:30:49 <grault> grault is now known as earle

14:07:46 <bwm> anyone know if there is a tech plenary channel?

14:13:13 <dajobe> bwm: there is likely one on the w3c irc server. The sw arch page lists a channel for that

14:21:54 <DanC_jam> anybody looked at the speech markup specs?

14:27:44 <JosD> DanC, I did, some time ago, it was when we cooperated in an IWT project with Luc Van Tichelen who wrote [Semantic Interpretation for Speech Recognition|http://www.w3.org/TR/semantic-interpretation/]

14:28:00 <DanC_jam> hmm

14:28:51 * JosD wonders why DanC says hmm

14:33:38 * DanC_jam was just saying "I see."

14:34:05 * dajobe was amused that JosD gave DanC a chump-syntax reply

14:34:34 * JosD ;-)

14:36:22 <DanC_jam> BLURB: SemWeb impact of Speech Markup Specs? hmm...

14:36:23 <dc_rdfig> A: SemWeb impact of Speech Markup Specs? hmm... from DanC_jam

14:36:42 * DanC_jam suggests JosD s/DanC,/A:/

14:37:35 <JosD>http://www.w3.org/TR/semantic-interpretation/

14:37:35 <dc_rdfig> B: http://www.w3.org/TR/semantic-interpretation/ from JosD

14:38:31 <timbl__> "semantics" of voice browser dialog results are, from the vb groups point of view, how HTML form feilds to be filled in. :-(

14:39:51 <JosD> A:|Semantic Interpretation for Speech Recognition

14:39:51 <dc_rdfig> Titled item A.

14:40:28 <JosD> B:|W3C Working Draft 16 November 2001

14:40:28 <dc_rdfig> Titled item B.

14:40:58 <JosD> B:|Semantic Interpretation for Speech Recognition

14:40:58 <dc_rdfig> Titled item B.

14:41:22 <JosD> B:W3C Working Draft 16 November 2001

14:41:23 <dc_rdfig> Added comment B1.

14:42:38 * JosD is very sorry to have overwritten DanC's A:| and wonders how to restore that...

14:42:45 * timbl__ wonders whether "hmmmm" is an anglophone culture-specific term (for indicatingone is thinking about something).

14:44:00 <DanC_jam> A:|SemWeb impact of Speech Markup Specs? hmm...

14:44:01 <dc_rdfig> Titled item A.

14:44:39 <inkel> timbl__: in spanish "hmmmm" means the same

14:45:15 <Wack> as it does in dutch

14:50:13 <JosD> A: I did, some time ago, it was when we cooperated in an IWT project with Luc Van Tichelen who wrote [Semantic Interpretation for Speech Recognition|http://www.w3.org/TR/semantic-interpretation/]

14:50:13 <dc_rdfig> Added comment A1.

14:50:40 * JosD now just realizes what DanC wanted, sorry for the confusion

14:54:13 <DanC_jam> these silly natural languages are so imprecise and reliable, huh Jos?

14:54:21 <DanC_jam> :)

14:55:55 <JosD> not sure Dan, it was me who failed here

14:57:06 <JosD> A: thinks that scripting should actually be *de*scripting

14:57:06 <dc_rdfig> Added comment A2.

14:58:29 <JosD> ...as scripting is too procedural, *de* it to become declarative

14:59:39 <JosD> A:...as scripting is too procedural, *de* it to become declarative

14:59:39 <dc_rdfig> Added comment A3.

15:06:14 <DanC_jam> logger, pointer?

15:06:50 <DanC_jam> logger_1, pointer?

15:06:50 <DanC_jam> See http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfig/2003-03-05#T15-06-50

15:07:20 <DanC_jam> A:see also [discussion|http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfig/2003-03-05#T15-06-50]

15:07:20 <dc_rdfig> Added comment A4.

15:09:33 <DanC_jam> B:hmm... "4. Semantic Values and Types". looks an awful lot like XML Schema datatypes.

15:09:33 <dc_rdfig> Added comment B2.

15:10:58 <DanC_jam> B:type coersion stuff looks like XPath

15:10:58 <dc_rdfig> Added comment B3.

15:40:23 <JosD> A: I just spoke with Luc, who's actually a heavy believer in declarative languages, and it's quite clear that RDF could help a lot to achieve inter-app interoperability here

15:40:23 <dc_rdfig> Added comment A5.

15:54:46 <AaronSFO> AaronSFO is now known as AaronSw

17:24:18 <mhgrove> has anyone here used a SAX2 compatible parser (preferably in java) to parse RDF?

17:39:16 <arnarl> hi

17:57:08 <earle> earle is now known as grault

18:37:57 <shellac>http://rdfweb.org/people/damian/FoafFinger-0.1.jar

18:37:58 <dc_rdfig> C: http://rdfweb.org/people/damian/FoafFinger-0.1.jar from shellac

18:38:12 <shellac> C:|FoafFinger 0.1

18:38:12 <dc_rdfig> Titled item C.

18:39:29 <shellac> C:Usage: java -jar FoafFinger-0.1.jar "My Name" email@ddress [optional port]

18:39:29 <dc_rdfig> Added comment C1.

18:39:50 <shellac> C:Then try 'help'.

18:39:51 <dc_rdfig> Added comment C2.

18:41:25 <shellac> C:This is a little fancy that lets other users (on the same subnet) find out about you

18:41:25 <dc_rdfig> Added comment C3.

18:41:58 <shellac> C:eg at conferences, meetings.

18:41:58 <dc_rdfig> Added comment C4.

18:42:41 <shellac> C:It is also an rdf leveraging tool - makes producing rdf (foaf) data simple

18:42:41 <dc_rdfig> Added comment C5.

18:43:38 <shellac> C:using "dump <filename>", uploading, then "set seealso <url of dumped data>"

18:43:39 <dc_rdfig> Added comment C6.

18:45:45 <shellac> C:uses [http://www.strangeberry.com/|jrendezvous] (with a little bugfix)

18:45:46 <dc_rdfig> Added comment C7.

18:54:27 <shellac> C:[http://rdfweb.org/people/damian/foaffinger-0.1-src.tar.gz|Source]

18:54:28 <dc_rdfig> Added comment C8.

18:55:34 <shellac> C:Can't load RDF - but that's why it's ~50k :-)

18:55:35 <dc_rdfig> Added comment C9.

19:06:54 <DanC_jam> .google is this thing on?

19:06:55 <datum> is this thing on?: http://www.thing.net/

19:10:28 <xover> .google me harder...?

19:10:29 <datum> me harder...?: http://www.houghi.org/jargon/fuck-me-harder.html

19:10:44 <xover> :-)

19:58:13 <JosD> B: Luc replies (via mail) that in a the new draft (due this month) section 4 is gone and what they kept is a reference to EcmaScript compact profile and they just use the datatypes provided in there

19:58:13 <dc_rdfig> Added comment B4.

19:59:50 <JosD> B: what they added is a convention to make an XML fragment from the ECMAScript object

19:59:50 <dc_rdfig> Added comment B5.

20:02:04 <JosD> ... would be good to look to this with N3 glasses

20:02:11 <JosD> B: ... would be good to look to this with N3 glasses

20:02:11 <dc_rdfig> Added comment B6.

20:18:37 <libby> C: go on, have a go - tiny download....

20:18:38 <dc_rdfig> Added comment C10.

20:36:37 <JosD_>http://www.w3.org/QA/2003/01/Glossary

20:36:37 <dc_rdfig> D: http://www.w3.org/QA/2003/01/Glossary from JosD_

20:36:57 <JosD_> D:|W3C Glossary and Dictionary Project

20:36:57 <dc_rdfig> Titled item D.

20:40:34 <JosD_> D:luminary talk [W3C Glossary W3C Glossary|http://www.w3.org/2003/Talks/03-05-glossary-ot/all.svg] by Olivier Thereaux

20:40:35 <dc_rdfig> Added comment D1.

20:42:14 <JosD_> D:... Ultimately... Searchable, easy to manipulate (Think RDF)

20:42:14 <dc_rdfig> Added comment D2.

20:47:08 <JosD_> D:i.e. [http://www.w3.org/2003/Talks/03-05-glossary-ot/Glossary.rdf|http://www.w3.org/2003/Talks/03-05-glossary-ot/Glossary.rdf]

20:47:08 <dc_rdfig> Added comment D3.

21:50:40 * mortenf smiles, got redland installed...

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